# Default sorting order for products in back office in Litium 4.8 **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Created:** [August 23, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.litium.com/t/default-sorting-order-for-products-in-back-office-in-litium-4-8/206 "2018-08-23T10:43:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dannyboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.litium.com/dannyboy/32/55_2.png) [@dannyboy](https://forum.litium.com/u/dannyboy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.litium.com/t/default-sorting-order-for-products-in-back-office-in-litium-4-8/206/1 "2018-08-23T10:43:38Z")
Hey! I log in to back office, go into products sortiment and I want to change the sort order of the products. I press the “Change sorting order” button. In the page it loads I can change how the products are sorted for example drag product “pants 1” to the top. When I add new products into the product category (“pants 2”,“pants 3”) they seem to get some default value which makes them to appear at the top of the list before I actively change their order. “Pants 2” and “Pants 3” appear over “Pants 1”. Why is that and how are they sorted by default? Litium version: 4.8 ---
**Author:** ![marten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.litium.com/marten/32/11_2.png) [@marten](https://forum.litium.com/u/marten)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.litium.com/t/default-sorting-order-for-products-in-back-office-in-litium-4-8/206/2 "2018-08-23T12:01:07Z")
You can see `SortIndex` in the database table `dbo.ProductCatalog_Product`. New products are created with `SortIndex = -1`, but as soon as you do updates by clicking _Change sorting order_ the `SortIndex` will be updated to 1,2,3…etc. And if you after updating sort order add yet another product it will get `SortIndex = -1` again.